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Minutes of the 2nd Quarterly Meeting held within Thistle Hotel, Millburn Road, Inverness on Thursday 20th June 2002.

 

 

1.                  MEMBERS PRESENT

 

Derrick Cronie                           Neil MacKinnon

Alan Drummond                         Alistair McBean

Graeme Ednie                            Blair Marquis

John Finnie (Secretary)               David Ross (Assistant Secretary)

John Jones-Davies                      James Simpson (Chair)

George MacDonald                     Mairi Steel           

John MacDonald                         Andrew Walker

                       

2.                  APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

 

Murdo Cameron - Sick Leave

Murdo Fraser – Duty Commitments

Alan Heath – Annual Leave

 

3.                  OPENING OF MEETING

 

The Chairman opened the Meeting by welcoming everyone present, particularly Andy Walker attending his first meeting as Islands’ Inspectors’ Representative, inviting him to take an active part in proceedings.  The Chairman also wished Murdo Cameron a full and speedy recovery.

 

4.         ADOPTION OF STANDING ORDERS

 

Standing Orders were formally adopted.

 

5.         APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF LAST MEETING

 

The Minutes of the Last Meeting had been circulated and were adopted as a true record, subject to the replacement of John MacDonald with George MacDonald at Approval of Minutes of Last Meeting.

 

6.         MATTERS ARISING

 

6.1       LEGAL ADVICE/ASSISTANCE

 

1.      Ongoing Legal Cases

 

There are presently 18 cases ongoing with two settled since the last meeting.

Legal Opinion as been obtained on the role of the HMCIC (Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabularies) in complaints from Police Officers indicating that s/he has a statutory role to inquire into complaints made by serving officers.

 

To date a formal response has not been received from sir Roy Cameron, HMCIC.  The matter is being addressed nationally following which the two on-going local complaints by Federated Officers will be progressed.

 

The Secretary reported that, following the Court of Appeal in England and Wales’s landmark ruling on the extent of employer’s duties in relation to occupational stress the Federation’s Solicitors had provided advice for Joint Branch Board Secretaries to whom all queries regarding this issue should be directed.

 

2.      Discipline/Misconduct

 

The Secretary informed the Meeting of the ongoing enquiry within the Force being conducted by officers from Central Scotland and Lothian and Borders Police, adding that both he and the Assistant Secretary had held detailed discussions with enquiry team members regarding compliance with the Police (Conduct) (Scotland) Regulations 1996.

 

            6.2       POLICE PAY AND CONDITIONS

           

As agreed at the previous meeting, the Secretary had held initial discussions with the Chief Constable on the Force’s position with regard to Disregard of First Half Hour and recompense claimed as time off in lieu.

 

The Meeting discussed the issue at some length following which the Secretary agreed to discuss arrangements for the crediting of evidenced time for all officers affected by the ultra vires ‘disregard’ and report back.

 

Joint Central Committee Minutes of 7th & 8th May 2002 and Bulleting have kept the Membership advised of the current position following agreement reached on the PNB Working Party on Pay.

 

Much detailed discussion requires to take place with United Kingdom Working Parties set up to address the following issues: Regulations and Determinations, Management of Overtime, Competency Threshold & Special Priority Payments, Sick-Pay Arrangements and Service Beyond 30 years (being piloted in two English and Welsh Forces).  The issue of Attendance Management is being addressed at the Police Advisory Board of Scotland.

 

The Secretary advised the Meeting of willingness of the part of COSLA, the Scottish Executive and ACPOS to consider a Scottish System of implementing the agreement.

 

Regardless of the ultimate criteria reached it has been acknowledged that there will be a considerable workload for both Forces and the Federation locally to ensure best possible arrangements for implementation.

 

The Joint Central Committee has agreed that the issue for criteria for Special Priority Payments will be considered by the JBB Secretaries at their meeting on 4th and 5th July.  After some discussion the Meeting agreed that it would be inappropriate for the Board to consider this matters further, whilst national guidelines are awaited.

The proposed Change to the Pay Period was considered at the Joint Negotiating and Consultative Committee the previous day at which time the Chief Constable advised that monthly pay will commence from the pay period nearest 1st April 2003 and be paid 2 weeks in advance two weeks in arrears with the precise mechanism of the transition communicated to staff at the earliest opportunity.

 

PNB Circulars:

 

02/05    Refreshment, subsistence and lodging allowances

 

02/06    Removal Allowance – incidental expenditure

 

02/07    Incidental expenses allowance for those attending residential training courses

 

02/08    Motor vehicle allowances

 

02/09    Police pay and conditions (plus Addendum)

 

The following documents have been received and, where appropriate, responded to;

 

SPPA – Police Pension (Increase) Circular 2002/1 covering The Pension Increase (Review) Order 2002

 

SPPA – Police Pension Circular 2002/2 – Pension Sharing on Divorce

 

SPPA – Police Pension Circular 2002/3 covering Pension Sharing on Divorce, Medical Appeals, The Pension Advisory Service, Bilateral Agreement with British Transport Police and List of Circulars

 

The Review of Summary Justice – Consultation on first Order Issues – March 2002

 

The Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill Consultation paper

 

HMCIC Thematic Inspection Programme 2002-2007

 

Scottish Executive Police Circular 2 of 2002 – Common Police Services: recovery of Expenditure for Common Police Services in 2002-03

 

Scottish Executive Police Circular 3 of 2002 The Police Grant (Scotland) Order 2002

 

Scottish Executive Police Circular 4 of 2002 Reinstatement of the rank of Deputy Chief Constable and Chief Superintendent

 

Scottish Executive Police Circular 5 of 2002 Protocol between the UK Atomic Energy Authority and the Scottish Police Service and English and Welsh Police Forces

 

Scottish Executive JD Circular 4 of 2002 Restriction of Liberty Orders: Role of the Police

Scottish Executive: Report of the Feasibility Group on Youth Crime Pilots

 

Scottish Executive Consultation – Vital VoicesHelping Vulnerable Witnesses Give Evidence

 

Proposal for Bill to Establish Prostitution Tolerance Zones

 

6.3              FORCE PERSONNEL POLICIES

 

Following Transfer Appeal Panel (TAP) decision in January 2003, the Secretary sought clarification on the Force Reference Document Selection and Deployment Policy for Constables and Sergeants i.e. whether the TAP decisions were to be interpreted as a departure from the references to ‘tenure’ as they are related to time spent in ‘station’ rather than ‘post’.

 

The matter was briefly discussed at the Joint Negotiating and Consultative Committee in January since when repeated have failed to elucidate an answer to the question posed.   The matter was placed on the agenda of the previous day’s JNCC at which time the Chief Constable agreed to write to the Board indicating how he intended the present policy to be interpreted.

 

As agreed at the previous Meeting, a group comprising Derrick Cronie, Reay MacKay and Blair Marquis considered Representatives’ views on Ms Sillars proposals on Selection and Deployment for Constables and Sergeants and compiled a response on behalf of the Federated Ranks.  The revised Document, to be considered at the Policy Forum on 3rd July, has not yet been received making meaningful consultation with the Membership very difficult.

 

Some, though not all, of the provision of PNB Circular 01/22 and Scottish Executive JD Police Division Circular No 1/200 Maternity, Maternity Support, Parental and Adoption Leave and Time Off for Dependents will be included in Force Reference Document Maternity / Maternity Support Leave (Police) presently making its way through the meeting structure.

 

6.4              HEALTH AND SAFETY

 

The Secretary reported the issues raised under the item Media Services at the last meeting are to be considered by the Operational Duties Standing Committee.

 

National discussions on the Working Time Regulations are progressing and the Secretary advised of the intention to create a generic national Workplace Agreement at the next Joint Branch Board Secretaries’ meeting on 4th and 5th July.  The Meeting agreed that the nature of detail involved did not readily lend itself to wider discussion and agreed that the Secretary should undertake the Board’s input and report back.

 

The tender for Occupational Health Services has been won by the NHS Trust.  The Secretary reported that he has held discussions with the Head of Human Resources regarding the Service.  The previous day’s JNCC meeting also briefly discussed the matter and the Meeting was pleased to note that all staff are to be provided with information on the Occupational Health Service along with their next salary advice.

 

The Evaluation of CS Spray April 2001 to April 2002 has been circulated to all Members and indicates a welcome reduction on the number of assaults.

 

The Meeting were aware of, and welcomed, Temporary Assistant Chief Constable McGhee’s memorandum regarding the Mandatory Wearing of Protective Vests and trusts that all Members will enhance both their and their Colleagues’ safety by complying.

 

The Meeting also discussed the situation in one area where the prevalence of complaints from accused regarding their being placed in handcuffs had resulted in some difficulties.  The Assistant Secretary had undertaken and enquiry into the matter and clarified that compliance with agreed procedures regarding handcuffing would be reinforced at local Officer Safety Training.

 

The question of numbering Accident Book entries to avoid the unauthorised removal of pages has bee raised with, and is being addressed by, the Force’s Health and Safety Advisor.

 

6.5              PROGRESSION OF ANNUAL CONFERENCE MOTIONS

 

All the Board’s Annual Conference Motions were passed and have or are being responded to and will be reported back on as and when developments take place.

 

DELETE

 

6.6              RETENTION IN CUSTODY OF PERSONS ACCUSED OF POLICE ASSAULT

 

As agreed at the previous Meeting, Blair Marquis had raised this issue of the retention in custody of persons accused of police assault with Mr Napier, Procurator Fiscal.  Mr Napier stated that each individual case requires to be considered on its merits with due regard to the Lord Advocate’s Guidelines.  The Meeting agreed that there were widespread concerns among the Membership about this matter but accept that the pursuit of a carte blanche policy which disregards the Lord Advocate’s Guidelines was not a tenable position.

 

DELETE

 

7.         NEW BUSINESS

 

7.1              Bullying

 

The following motion was proposed by John Finnie, seconded by David Ross and unanimously adopted;

 

“This Branch Board supports the provisions of the Dignity at Work Bill, presently progressing through Parliament, and applauds the efforts of the Work Foundation to make bullying in the workplace an offence.

 

The Branch Board continues to fully endorse Northern Constabulary’s Harassment and Bullying at Work Policy and Code of Practice and will actively assist in all efforts to eradicate bullying within the Force”.

 

 

7.2              National Negotiating Machinery

 

The following motion was proposed by John Finnie, seconded by David Ross and defeated by 6 votes to 5;

 

“This Joint Branch Board believes that the present and future terms and conditions of Scottish Police Officers are no longer being served by the United Kingdom Police Negotiating Board (PNB).

 

PNB has continually failed to meet the aspirations of Scotland’s federated ranks and should be replaced, at the earliest opportunity, by direct negotiations, on all terms and conditions, between the Scottish Police Federation and the Scottish Executive”.

 

7.3              Representation on the Joint Branch Board

 

Graeme Ednie advised the Meeting that he had placed this item on the agenda to articulate concerns regarding the disparity between the ranks and, in particular the fact that the Constables rank was disproportionately under-represented.  General discussion took place and, in the absence of any formal proposal, and in light of what was understood to be an examination of this matter by other Branch Boards, it was agreed that this item be deleted from the agenda at this time.

 

DELETE

 

7.4              Dental / Optical Insurance – ‘Cash back’ Scheme

 

Gordon Carmichael of Carmichael & Partners, the Board’s Insurance Broker, joined the meeting and gave a short presentation on the proposed ‘Dental / Optical Health Scheme’, and answered a series of detailed questions from Members thereon.

 

The Board agreed to circulate information to the Membership indicating that all enquiries regarding it should be directed to Mr Carmichael.

 

RETAIN

 

 

8.            SECRETARY’S CORRESPONDENCE

 

In addition to a number of items of routine correspondence the Secretary drew the Board’s attention to the following; the updated position regarding the National Prisoner Escort Review i.e. It estimated that a contract will be signed before the current financial year-end and that implementation will be a phased operation from mid 2003’; the SPF Voluntary Fund Accounts for Year ended 31st December 2001; Various Items from the Standing Conference of Police in Europe (SCOPE); the SPF response to questions posed by ACPOS Joint Forces Review of Shift Systems;  Correspondence regarding questions posed by parliamentarians regarding Police Numbers.

 

 

9.            ANY OTHER COMPETENT BUSINESS

 

Following the resignation of John Darcy the Chairman called for nominations for the post of JBB Vice Chairman.  George MacDonald, the sole nominee was duly elected and thanked the Board for their support.

 

The Chairman read out a resignation letter from John MacDonald who was standing down from the Board for ‘personal reasons’.  John wished the Board well for the future and, on behalf of the Meeting, was warmly thanked by the Chairman for his positive contribution.

 

The Chairman also asked the Minute record thanks from the Board, on behalf of the Membership, for John Darcy’s work and support during his time on the Board and in his capacity as Vice Chairman.

 

10.    TIME AND DATE OF NEXT MEETING

  

The Third Quarterly Meeting of the Joint Branch Board is scheduled to take place at 10.30 am on Wednesday 11th September at the Thistle Hotel, Millburn Road, Inverness.         

 

11.    CLOSURE OF MEETING

 

In closing the Meeting the Chairman thanked Members for their contributions and wished everyone a safe journey home.

 

The Chairman, in turn, was thanked in the customary manner.

 

 

 

 

John B Finnie                           James Simpson

JBB Secretary                                        JBB Chairman   


 

 

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