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Minutes of the 3rd Quarterly Meeting held within Caledonian Hotel, Church Street, Inverness on Wednesday 11th September 2002

Minutes of the 3rd Quarterly Meeting held within Caledonian Hotel, Church Street, Inverness on Wednesday 11th September 2002.

 

 

 

1.   MEMBERS PRESENT

 

Derrick Cronie                           Reay MacKay

Alan Drummond                         Blair Marquis

Graeme Ednie                            David Ross (Assistant Secretary)

John Finnie (Secretary)               James Simpson (Chairman)

Alan Heath                                 Mairi Steel           

John Jones-Davies                                                         

                                               

Mrs Claire Kerr, JBB Administrator was also in attendance

 

 

2.   APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

 

Murdo Cameron - Sick Leave

John Chisholm - Annual Leave

George MacDonald - Annual Leave

Neil MacKinnon - Annual Leave

Alistair McBean - Duty Commitments

Tom Ogilvie - Annual Leave

Andrew Walker - Duty Commitments

 

 

3.   OPENING OF MEETING

 

The Chairman opened the Meeting by welcoming everyone present and expressing disappointment at the small number of Members in attendance.

 

The Chairman asked that the Minute intimates the Board's congratulations to Murdo Fraser on his recent promotion and thanks him for all his efforts on the Sergeants' Board.

 

 

4.               ADOPTION OF STANDING ORDERS

 

Adoption of Standing Orders were formally proposed and seconded.

 

 

5.  APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF LAST MEETING

 

The Minutes of the Last Meeting were formally adopted as a true record.

 

 

6.   MATTERS ARISING

 

6.1 LEGAL ADVICE/ASSISTANCE

 

1.   Ongoing Legal Cases

 

Further enquiry is continuing into the role of the HMCIC in Complaints from Police Officers with collation of any HMCIC involvement in such matters to date being undertaken centrally.

 

The Secretary reported on the progress of the review of The Provision of Legal Advice and Assistance by the Joint Central Committee and the fact the it has been agreed to further explore legal advice and assistance provided by Joint Branch Boards.

 

2.   Discipline/Misconduct

 

The Secretary updated the Meeting on the enquiry being undertaken by officers from Central Scotland and Lothian and Borders Police.  The team moved from their Dingwall accommodation to finish of their work at Police Headquarters, Stirling on 23rd August.

 

The Secretary has written, and is to meet with, Temporary Assistant Chief Constable McGhee regarding the continuing trend of malicious complaints being made against officers.  The Meeting AGREED that malicious complainers should face prosecution and in addition, in the very limited criteria available, civil redress should also be considered.  

 

The Assistant Secretary reported on a recent case where an accused, initially facing 3 charges, Police Assault plus two Breaches of the Peace at the District Court, had a plea of 'not guilty' to the Police Assault and one Breach of the Peace charges accepted subject to a 'Guilty' plea to a Breach of the Peace charge with the insertion of the words 'and DID punch Constable .. on the head.'  The Meeting expressed concern about this practice which could see an accused appear on a subsequent Police Assault charge not having relevant previous conviction considered.  The Assistant Secretary indicated that he had sent a letter to Mr Napier, the Procurator Fiscal but, to date, no reply has been received.

 

 

            6.2       POLICE PAY AND CONDITIONS

           

1.   Disregard of First Half Hour

 

Prior to meeting with the Chief Constable, the Secretary prepared a detailed paper outlining the legal position regarding the Disregard of First Half Hour and a suggested the resolution.

 

The Meeting discussed the Chief Constable's response and AGREED that it failed to meet the Membership's legitimate expectations and significantly disregarded advice from the Side Secretaries of the Police Negotiating Board.  The Meeting AGREED that the Secretary is to communicate further with the Chief Constable in an effort to swiftly conclude this long-running issue.

 

2. PNB Working Party on Pay

 

Much detailed discussion is ongoing within the United Kingdom Working Parties set up to address the following issues;

 

a.   Regulations and Determinations

 

This Working Group has held two meetings with the Official Side yet to make clear why they have sought to move from Regulations to Determinations, albeit they accept that the application of Determinations can be the subject of legal challenge.

 

b.   Management of Overtime

 

There has only been one meeting of this Working Group with neither COSLA nor ACPOS wishing to be restricted to the Heads of Agreement figure.  The Official Side is undertaking a survey of hours worked which the Staff Side will closely monitor to ensure the figures arrived at represent an accurate starting point and are not distorted by being collected during a leave period or other specific times of 'unusual expenditure'.

 

c.   Competency Threshold & Special Priority Payments

 

This Working Party has met on seven occasions and is set to conclude by 30th September with the Official Side scheduled to produce guidance on Special Priority Payments (SPPs).

 

The Chief Constable had sought the Board's views on the local application of SPP.  The Meeting AGREED that it would inappropriate for the Board to consider this matter prior to the publication of the Official Side's guidance and, whilst not pre-empting the content of any Guidance, further AGREED that it was unlikely the Board would participate in considering who should be given SPPs.

 

d.   Sick-Pay Arrangements and Service Beyond 30 years

 

The main area of contention relates to the question of 'permanent disablement' with revised advice to be provided to Force Medical Advisors.  Attendance Management is being addressed at the Police Advisory Board for Scotland with possible amendments to the Efficiency Regulations to include the question of 'attendance'.

 

3. PNB and Other Circulars

 

PNB Circular 02/10 - Guide to Negotiable Conditions of Service of Police Officers

 

PNB Circular 02/11 - PNB Annual Report to the Prime Minister  

PNB Circular 02/12 - Pay for Cadets

 

PNB Circular 02/13 - Pay of Federated Ranks

 

PNB Circular 02/14 - i) London Weighting, ii) Dog Handlers' Allowance, iii) PSNI Allowance, iv) Temporary non-pensionable supplement for inspectors and chief inspectors in the PSNI

 

PNB Circular 02/15 - Pay for Officers of Superintending Rank

 

PNB Circular 02/16 - Pay of Chief Officer Ranks

 

Intimation of the Federated Ranks Pay Award for 2002 was circulated in Bulletin 8/2002 which also contained updates on the PNB Agreement Working Parties and the PNB Federated Ranks Committee.

 

A Circular from the General Secretary covering Recall from Annual Leave has been circulated to Representatives and should clarify some of the confusion caused by PNB Circular 01/10.                               

4. Removal Allowance

 

There are currently four cases where reimbursement of elements of Removal Allowance have been refused by the Chief Constable which are being considered by the Side Secretaries of PNB.

 

The Secretary reminded the Meeting the Pay and Allowances Guidance - Relocation Expenses on NOW, was agreed by the Branch Board, the Head of Human Resources and the Head of Finance, and Asset Management.

 

There is now an expectation that Officers relocating should clarify their entitlements under Regulation 47 with the Head of Human Resources.

 

The Secretary is presently seeking clarification on a change in the advice agreed in July 2000 regarding Restriction of Costs which sought to restrict reimbursement of Stamp Duty and other fees charged by lawyers on conveyancing property.  The change, which will be beneficial to the Membership, was made at the direction of the Chief Constable. The Restriction of Costs has been discontinued, however the appropriate change was never effected in the Guidance on NOW nor discussed with the Branch Board or the Head of Human Resources or Service Unit Managers who are all expected to provide correct advice.

 

            5.  Relocation Service

 

The Force now has a contract for a Relocation Service, however, as Regulation 47 Removal Allowance is to be replaced by a Determination, it has been decided to await the outcome of that change prior to considering provision of specific guidance on the use of the service.  The Meeting AGREED that this matter should be considered at the next Joint Negotiating and Consultative Committee meeting.

 

 

6.3       FORCE PERSONNEL POLICIES

 

1.   Selection and Deployment for Constables, Sergeants and Inspectors

 

The Force Reference Document Selection and Deployment Policy for Constables and Sergeants, now covers Inspectors and remains the subject of ongoing revision.  The matter was briefly discussed at the Joint Negotiating and Consultative Committee in June and a revised Policy was discussed, and subsequently withdrawn, at the July Policy Forum.  The latest 'version' was circulated to Representatives prior to the Meeting.

 

The Meeting AGREED; there is continuing confusion regarding 'transfers', the Membership wish clear, unequivocal guidance of the issue and equitable application of any agreed Policy.  The Assistant Secretary is to meet with the reconvened Working Group, comprising Derrick Cronie, Reay MacKay and Blair Marquis to compose an appropriate response to the latest Document circulated.

 

2.  Long Service and Good Conduct Medals

 

Following representations regarding the disappointment felt by many officers at the continuing delay in the timeous award of the Long Service and Good Conduct Medals, the Secretary contacted the Head of Human Resources who advises that there has been an administrative problem which has since been resolved.  The Head of Operations is now liasing with Service Unit Managers to arrange presentations.

 

                        3.   Queen's Jubilee Medal

 

The Queen's Jubilee Medals have been ordered for all eligible officers i.e. officers with 5 years or more reckonable service on the 6th February 2002.

 

 

6.4       HEALTH AND SAFETY

 

1.   Media Services

 

The Secretary reported the issues raised under the item Media Services continues to be considered by the Operational Duties Standing Committee.

 

 

 

 

2.   Working Time Regulations

 

A generic Workplace Agreement has prepared by Joint Branch Board Secretaries' and approved by the Joint Central Committee.

 

The Secretary had circulated the 'draft' Agreement prior to the Meeting, however, the Meeting AGREED the Paper should be withdrawn pending further clarification of various issues. 

     

3.   Occupational Health Services

 

The Force's Occupational Health Service is now up and running and the Secretary and Assistant Secretary have met all the Occupational Health staff and held discussions with the Human Resources Department regarding the administration of the Service.

 

The Assistant Secretary raised the question of financial support the Force offers rehabilitating officers and the Meeting AGREED that the Force should be approached to meet the travel costs of officers attending the Northern Police Convalescent Home.

 

4.   Officer Safety Equipment

 

A meeting is to be convened to discuss various issues, including new light-weight protective vests, provision of additional covers for the protective vests and garments for wearing under the protective equipment.

 

The question of wearing of ties during hot weather is a continuing source of complaint from the Membership and the Meeting AGREED the Assistant Secretary's proposal he writes to the Occupational Health Service for their views.

 

5.  Inspections

 

The Secretary reported on a recent Inspection which highlighted a significant structural Health and Safety issue affecting the safety of Officers, Support Staff and the General Public which, though known to Management, had not been rectified during the intervening week.

 

The Secretary has raised directly with the Chief Constable a concern that the Statutory role of the Federation appears to being considered to obviate a similar, if delegated, Statutory role for Police Managers in ensuring Health and Safety legislation is complied with.

 

In the coming months the Secretary and Assistant Secretary will undertake Inspections in a number of areas and combine those visits with meetings with the Membership.

 

6.  Risk Assessments

 

The Secretary reported that legislation relating to Risk Assessment is being largely ignored with regard to the requirement to compile Specific Risk Assessments.

 

The Force is to run a Risk Assessors course for 15 staff on 13th November 2002.

 

The Meeting AGREED that the role of the Force's Health and Safety Advisor be clarified at the next meeting of the Force's Health and Safety Steering Group.             

 

7.  Stinger Hollow Spike Tyre Deflation System

 

Following concerns regarding incidents when Stinger was deployed at incidents where Officers lost their lives, the Secretary contacted Operational Support to clarify whether the local Force Reference Document on the use of this equipment was being complied with.

 

The Force has subsequently been decided to limit the use of this equipment to the highly trained staff of the Road Policing Unit in addition to which Officers are to be sent on a Health and Safety Executive approved course Cascade training will then be rolled out, giving priority to remoter Command Areas.

 

The Meeting fully supported the Force's unequivocal Health and Safety stance on this issue.        

 

8.  Resource Availability and Allocation

 

The Secretary had raised with the Acting Head of Operations issues regarding compliance with the provisions of the Force Reference Document on Resource Availability and Allocation - FRD -R19 and it was agreed that the matters will be addressed during the next round of Performance Reviews.     

 

 

6.5     Dental/Optical Insurance - Cash-back Scheme

 

The Assistant Secretary reported that 54 officers had joined the    Scheme and that the Insurers had agreed to extend the opt-in period until 15th September.  It will be possible for the Membership to join thereafter, however, there will be a 6 month waiting period.  

 

 

7.0       New Business

 

7.1     Airwaves

 

A Member raised the issue of officers being 'required' to take home personal radios.  The Meeting agreed that there would be 'security' issues for both the officer and others in the household should this become accepted practice not least given the efforts to date of organised crime to obtain 'new sets'.  The Meeting AGREED that only in exceptional circumstances, and only with the officer's express approval, and subject to the provision of secure cabinet should this practice take place.

 

The Meeting AGREED that the Membership should take the opportunity to view the widely-circulated Video on the Airwaves project which covers many Health and Safety issues often referred to.

 

 

7.2   Electronic Duty Roster

 

A Member raised concerns about the proliferation of Electronic Duty Rosters.  Following discussions it was AGREED that the Secretary write to the Chief Constable confirming that all regulatory provisions are being applied throughout the Force.

 

 

7.3       Health and Safety Refresher/ NEBOSH Training

 

A Member raised the question of refresher training for Health and Safety Representatives and queried the provision of a further days training, plus a written examination, which would provide a formal NEBOSH qualification.

 

The Meeting AGREED that the Secretary should examine this proposal following the triennial elections.

 

 

7.4       Group Personal Accident and Sickness Scheme

 

1.   Travel Insurance

 

The Group travel Insurance Scheme will be renewed, for the existing level of premium, for a further 12 months, subject to three minor wording amendments which will be intimated directly to the Membership.

 

2.   Salary Replacement Scheme

3.   Capital Sum Ill-health Retirement Scheme

4.   Critical Illness

 

The Assistant Secretary reported that renewal for all three elements of the Scheme was scheduled to take place next month, however, the Insurance Company have yet to make a formal offer least there be any 'late' claims'.

 

Subject to time limits, the Meeting AGREED that, as per pervious occasions, the Secretary and Assistant Secretary progress negotiations and refer back if appropriate and time permits.

 

 

8.      Secretary's Correspondence

 

The Secretary read out two letters, one from Jacqui Lait MP, Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland thanking the Secretary for meeting with her and her colleagues during a recent visit to Inverness, the other from Norrie Flowers, National Chairman thanking the Board for their hospitality during the visit of the Joint Central Committee in June.

 

 

9.     Any Other Competent Business

 

There were no items of Competent Business.

 

10. Time and Date of Next Meeting

  

    The Fourth Quarterly Meeting is scheduled to take place at 10 am on

 Wednesday 4th December at the Thistle Hotel, Inverness.      

 

 

11. Closure of Meeting

 

In closing the Meeting the Chairman thanked Members for their contributions and wished everyone a safe journey home.

 

The Chairman, in turn, was thanked in the customary manner.

 

 

 

John B Finnie                                                                   James Simpson

JBB Secretary                                                                             JBB Chairman        

 


 

 

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